CP covered hoppers

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downeastrailfan
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CP covered hoppers

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Does anyone know where the destination was on the DAR was for the slab side covered hoppers seen in the following views and the type of cargo they contained?

http://www.dardpi.ca/wiki/index.php?tit ... -8137a.jpg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0355784849 (check out the E&N boxcar!)

The new True Line trains cars look to be an ideal match.

http://www.modeltrains.com/WEB%20-%20CM ... acific.htm
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Berwick Bakery?
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I was wondering this myself. The cars would have come from the big flour mill near the station in Halifax, the DAR had trackage rights all the way down. Berwick Bakery received regular shipments of flour in CN covered hoppers via Truro back about the same time David Othen took the shot in Halifax, might have been heading for Berwick, or maybe some of the cars were heading to another bacckery in Middleton maybe?

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Paul Charland wrote: might have been heading for Berwick, or maybe some of the cars were heading to another bacckery in Middleton maybe?

Paul :-)
It is too many for a transload operation, and there is nothing else down here that I could think of that would require that many cars at once at least if it was flour....was there a bakery further down the line?
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Hi Ric,

Pretty sure there was a bakery in Middleton, would have to dig out my '73 phone book to come up with a name though. The Messes in Greenwood would have gone through a lot of flour on a daily bases but I can't remember ever seeing a covered hopper on base, maybe it was off loaded somewhere and trucked on base.

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Hello Guys;
Good conversation here however during my days with the DAR there were many types of grain (corn,wheat, etc) shipped from Ocean Terminals in Halifax to various destinations on the line. There were shipments in both Box cars and covered hoppers. Some of the main destinations were the feed mills in the valley. Brooklyn (on the midland) Port Williams, Steam Mill and Wilmot are some that I remember however could have been more. Canada Packers at Port Williams was by far the biggest. All of the train seen in the pix could be for them.
Hope this helps your discussion.
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Hi Bev,

Thanks for the clarification, I've often wondered about the covered hoppers from Halifax and where they were going.

Would the train from Halifax also handle beer? While living in Greenwood in the '70s you'd often see CN insulated 50' boxcars at the Liquor Commission in Kingston, have to think they were coming in from Olin's or Moosehead. The consists from '73 had a few cars coming in via Truro and going all the way down to Yarmouth's NSLC.

Paul :-)
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The thing is, I think those cars were usually used for dense loadings like cement, flour and other fine powders which is why they were so small when you compare to the larger covered hoppers which carried the whole grains to mills, distilleries or breweries.
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Hi Ric,

The cars turned up with grains heading for Maritime Coop off the CN at Truro, also CN's slab side covered hoppers too. Some cars might have been assigned to certain commodities but I think back in the '70s these would haul just about any bulk load.

Paul :-)
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